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    When is the shoot out this year. Or maby I should ask is there one?

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    Default Re: 2014 Shootout

    There is a shootout but it hasn't been determined exactly what date yet. Sometime mid July as per Robert.

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    Default Re: 2014 Shootout

    Hard to imagine date hasn't been disclosed...already June 4th.
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    I agree, but Robert has been keeping me in the loop but still undetermined.
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    Default Re: 2014 Shootout

    Will be a strange but important event.Are we going to see flat screen OLED,4K OLED or just old curved LG OLED and a bunch of LED stuff and in end we hear the Kuro plasma wins again.

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    PM as of yesterday:

    Hi Mike,

    No exact date set at this moment, but I'm pushing for mid-July.

    Just waiting for confirmation of a few new UHD TVs before setting the date as I'd like to include some of the late entry 4K TVs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattg3 View Post
    Will be a strange but important event.Are we going to see flat screen OLED,4K OLED or just old curved LG OLED and a bunch of LED stuff and in end we hear the Kuro plasma wins again.
    No flat OLEDs announced other than the single model from LG, and that one won't be at the shootout based on my recollection. The 65" 4K model slated for release in Q3 is likely one that has caused delays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImRizzo View Post
    PM as of yesterday:

    Hi Mike,

    No exact date set at this moment, but I'm pushing for mid-July.

    Just waiting for confirmation of a few new UHD TVs before setting the date as I'd like to include some of the late entry 4K TVs.

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    I hope the LG OLED makes the shootout.

    Are any of the 2014 FALD sets out yet either? I think a few manufacturers will have them this year. If not the shootout will be missing a lot of the top guns for 2014.

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    The XBR-950B is the only one available so far. We'll have to see if the Toshiba (or even the Vizio P) arrives in time.

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    Robert's, CEW Press interview and UHD conference (good info)

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    Yeah, the last I heard from Robert, it was just as Rizzo says. They're pushing for mid- or late July, but everything depends on the manufacturers.

    4k is the one thing that really, really holds my interest this year. I saw a 4k projector they have at the store (Sony, IIRC) with true 4k source material, and it freaked me out. I could discern the individual blades of grass on the soccer field, projected onto a great big screen. True theater quality video is now possible for the regular home enthusiast. 'Course, we still have a while to wait for proper, uncompressed source material, but I don't doubt that will come along soon enough.

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    Uncompressed? That's going to be a long wait (and by long, I mean forever). Even 1080p lossless video compression ratios are ridiculously large (adding the bandwidth required for 4K would suggest in the vicinity of 4 times as large as 1080p, maybe a little smaller given newer, more efficient codecs). I have to assume you meant less compressed than a Netflix stream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post
    I have to assume you meant less compressed than a Netflix stream.
    Heh.

    Pretty much, yeah. I know there's compression going on in nearly all the HD source material, but there's a world of difference between what you see on a Lord of the Rings BluRay versus what you get from Comcast or streamed over Netflix, Amazon, or what-have-you. If I can't see or hear any of the compression, I'm okay with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidjschenk View Post
    Yeah, the last I heard from Robert, it was just as Rizzo says. They're pushing for mid- or late July, but everything depends on the manufacturers.

    4k is the one thing that really, really holds my interest this year. I saw a 4k projector they have at the store (Sony, IIRC) with true 4k source material, and it freaked me out. I could discern the individual blades of grass on the soccer field, projected onto a great big screen. True theater quality video is now possible for the regular home enthusiast. 'Course, we still have a while to wait for proper, uncompressed source material, but I don't doubt that will come along soon enough.

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    Make sure you take a long hard look at 1080p material on those things before spending any money... The only 4K set I've seen displaying 1080p content was the Sony XBR-65X900A and it looked terrible displaying a 1080p Blu Ray Disc. Looked like a mid-range LED set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntruder View Post
    Make sure you take a long hard look at 1080p material on those things before spending any money... The only 4K set I've seen displaying 1080p content was the Sony XBR-65X900A and it looked terrible displaying a 1080p Blu Ray Disc. Looked like a mid-range LED set.
    Thanks, Ntruder; I'll make sure to check it out. The 4k TVs I'm most interested in are all projectors, and in my admittedly limited experience, those things do usually have better processing and scaling than their flat panel siblings, but it still merits careful study. I remember well the early days of DVD upscaling on flat panel TVs, and they were nearly all horrible at it. My guess is that once again the upscaling will have to be done either in the player or in an external video processor in order to work well. We'll see.

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    Personally, I'm done with being a beta tester guinea pig for the CE mfg'ers. One thing Robert was pushing along with the 4K rez was the larger 85" display. He was very correct in doing so because at 4K, it would be a huge waste to view that UHD on anything much smaller in screen size. Too much up in the air on format standards, disk development, players, etc. You can forget about proper streaming as others have noted. Hell, there's not even proper 1080p being streamed now, and this standard has been around the general public well over a decade.

    Actually, I stream a lot of video now on my Roku and Netflix/Amazon Prime subs. But when I Really want to see great quality video on special movies like LOTR, Hobbit, Gravity, Star Trek, etc. then I go rent a Blu-Ray from Red Box. Yes, 4K is the new up & coming rez, but right now it's in its infancy. Perhaps in 5-7 years and after several successful generations of development with maybe OLED thrown into the mix, then I'll probably take a more serious look at the possibility of buying a 85+" UHD TV & player.
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    Hi cajieboy,

    Yeah, I hear you on that for sure. I'm actually not planning to buy this year; the shootout for me will be more about doing my research for just what sort of projector I might get next year (for flat panel, my trusty old locally dimmed B8500 is just fine). I don't like to climb the learning curve right at the same time I'm writing checks, you know? I've found it very helpful to do all my scouting and poking around at least six months early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidjschenk View Post
    Thanks, Ntruder; I'll make sure to check it out. The 4k TVs I'm most interested in are all projectors, and in my admittedly limited experience, those things do usually have better processing and scaling than their flat panel siblings, but it still merits careful study. I remember well the early days of DVD upscaling on flat panel TVs, and they were nearly all horrible at it. My guess is that once again the upscaling will have to be done either in the player or in an external video processor in order to work well. We'll see.

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    Yeah I think SD content still might look better on an old tube TV than they do on any HDTVs... I guess the point to consider is that until either the upscaling is better, or the majority of content you're using is 4k, you might actually be worse off with a 4K TV, if the majority of your content looks worse than on a high end 1080p set...

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    [QUOTE=davidjschenk;413410]Hi cajieboy,

    Yeah, I hear you on that for sure. I'm actually not planning to buy this year; the shootout for me will be more about doing my research for just what sort of projector I might get next year (for flat panel, my trusty old locally dimmed B8500 is just fine). I don't like to climb the learning curve right at the same time I'm writing checks, you know? I've found it very helpful to do all my scouting and poking around at least six months early.
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    Well David, if you're contemplating a 4K projector that's anything like that beautiful new Sony, then you will definitely need to bring along the checkbook. Last I looked, the Sony VPL-VW1000ES was retailing for around $25,000. Then there's this new short-throw projector that has that Scandavian modern design. Talk about a step-up in the price of HT! Brings back those old memories of Fujitsu Aviamo days in high-end plasma displays. If it's not too personal, how much are you willing to spend on this new 4K tech? Projectors are definitely cool, and the 4K rez fits their ability to do a 140" screen size perfectly
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