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    Default Re: Ordered a Emotiva UPA-500

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    Ha, funny.

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    Hi gadgtfreek, could it be placebo effect your are hearing and there is no difference in SQ.

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    I dont buy that, he can think what he wants. I just chose to ignore the lecture.

    When someone says this-

    None of this is to say that separate power amps are pointless. I've never had anything else in my main system, although that to some extent reflects the state of audio and my state of mind when I first go into audio in the early '70s. If I were starting out today, I might be more disposed to go with a receiver.
    to someone who has owned nothing but AVR's and says the first amp they bought sounds differently, what am I supposed to say? Maybe he should buy a few AVR's and listen to them for a few months before telling me what I hear!

    Ive had a Onky 809, Marantz 6005 and Denon 3312 with these speakers, and IMO they amp help up better when pushed last night, at least clarity wise. It wasnt any louder of course. I think clean is the proper word.

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    I used to be one of those guy's who believed in all the "facts" behind whether or not an outboard amp made a difference. But after hearing one in my own setup with my own speakers, I knew they made a difference. I love how others always like to tell you that what you hear isn't really real. LOL!! If I hear a difference I hear a difference, no one else can tell me other wise. I went back to just an AVR due to some down sizing and man do I miss my separates, the sound just isnt as Dynamic or as clean.
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    Killing me....I'm still stuck on AVR...no separate amp......
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    If you hear a difference then you hear difference. But lets just say what happens when you move up in power does it get more cleaner. I'm just trying to understand what makes it that much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post
    I dont buy that, he can think what he wants. I just chose to ignore the lecture.

    When someone says this-



    to someone who has owned nothing but AVR's and says the first amp they bought sounds differently, what am I supposed to say? Maybe he should buy a few AVR's and listen to them for a few months before telling me what I hear!

    Ive had a Onky 809, Marantz 6005 and Denon 3312 with these speakers, and IMO they amp help up better when pushed last night, at least clarity wise. It wasnt any louder of course. I think clean is the proper word.
    I have had a lot of experience with receivers and have participated in blind comparisons of various types of amplifiers. I used to think I heard all this stuff, too, when I was young and innocent, but I got over it. And once you get over it ... My allegiance to separates is partly sentimental and partly a consequence of my processing preferences. I don't understand why people focus so much on the amplifiers (you could take the power amps out of a receiver, put them in a separate box, and voila) and so little on the front end, which has so much more potential to affect the sound. And this is where receivers tend to be weak relative to the best separates. Finally, I frequently see people attribute sonic differences to amplifiers that amplifiers simply are not capable of making. An amplifier takes a voltage at the input, raises it by a fixed ratio to a larger voltage at the output, and delivers current to the speaker according to Ohm's law based on the output voltage and the speaker impedance. All it has to do is do this precisely and consistently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robsong View Post
    If you hear a difference then you hear difference. But lets just say what happens when you move up in power does it get more cleaner. I'm just trying to understand what makes it that much better.
    Increasing power will increase the maximum output level that can be achieved without gross distortion. That's all.

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    So all of this comes down to how loud you want to play, speaker sensitivity and listening distance from your speakers.

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