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    Default Denon AVR X4000

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    So I narrowed down my search to the Denon 4000, but my question is my yamaha rx v471 is rated at about 90 watts per channel and the Denon about 125 watts. Is that a big difference, would it be night and day in sound clarity or should I just wait until my yamaha dies(it works just fine) and save my money? It looks cool and all, but if i'm not going to notice anything, then why even spend $1300 right? Thanks........

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    My personal opinion is that you will see a difference. Denon is a definite a 'warmer' sounding receiver which is great for both music and theater reproduction. I don't remember ever hearing anyone complaining about Denon's sound and the advantage of the additional power allows you to play a a louder level without approaching distortion levels. The 4000 is an excellent receiver.
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    Im not familiar with the yammie sound, and the increase in wattage is not huge between those two, but IMO XT32 and dual sub EQ do a GREAT job for room calibration. I got my X4000 for around $850 from amazon warehouse deals. It was very good, I think it was just box damage and Denon warranties it for 1 year as a "open box".

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    I guess i'm at the point where do I need a new receiver......no, would I like a new receiver......FUCK YEAH!!!!! Right now, it sounds pretty good, will it sound so much better? I want it to be like, "Oh yeah, this sounds so amazing!!" instead of "I really can't hear the difference, can't believe I just spent $1000" Whole different story if my yamaha was not working anymore.

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    Again, I personally love audio qualities of Denon. I think if you like it loud, then the Denon will make you appreciate the money spent. If you're just gonna listen at moderate levels, you may not appreciate the extra money spent.


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    That's a question only you can answer, I'd suggest going to a AV store and auditioning the Denon in person to determine if it's what you want.

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    I guess i'm at the point where do I need a new receiver......no, would I like a new receiver......FUCK YEAH!!!!! Right now, it sounds pretty good, will it sound so much better? I want it to be like, "Oh yeah, this sounds so amazing!!" instead of "I really can't hear the difference, can't believe I just spent $1000" Whole different story if my yamaha was not working anymore.
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    Thanks guys

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    Default Re: Denon AVR X4000

    Quote Originally Posted by mon2479 View Post
    So I narrowed down my search to the Denon 4000, but my question is my yamaha rx v471 is rated at about 90 watts per channel and the Denon about 125 watts. Is that a big difference, would it be night and day in sound clarity or should I just wait until my yamaha dies(it works just fine) and save my money? It looks cool and all, but if i'm not going to notice anything, then why even spend $1300 right? Thanks........
    Can you give us some other information....what kind of speakers..how many speakers...large listening area...small...medium..what's the main type of useage for the AVR...music...movies...an AVR is just one link in the audio chain...balance is the key to any good audio system...having a great AVR and substandard speakers would be a poor investment...and increased wattage doesn't always ensure better audio...it just depends on the product..I own a Denon and I like it because it sounds "neutral" to me..of course mine is over 5 years old and all Denon AVR's don't sound alike...personally I like to have adequate power...I have 110 X 7 now and I wouldn't go below that...125 is a good number...but just increasing the wattage won't do much good if the speakers aren't up to the task...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mon2479 View Post
    So I narrowed down my search to the Denon 4000, but my question is my yamaha rx v471 is rated at about 90 watts per channel and the Denon about 125 watts. Is that a big difference, would it be night and day in sound clarity or should I just wait until my yamaha dies(it works just fine) and save my money? It looks cool and all, but if i'm not going to notice anything, then why even spend $1300 right? Thanks........
    It's about 1.4 dB difference in maximum output. Unless they're adjusted differently or one of them is doing something wrong, you're not likely to hear any difference between them. The decision really would hinge on whether the Denon has additional features or capabilities that you want.

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    Default Re: Denon AVR X4000

    Quote Originally Posted by ImRizzo View Post
    That's a question only you can answer, I'd suggest going to a AV store and auditioning the Denon in person to determine if it's what you want.
    Unless you can do a level-matched A/B between the two products (preferably in straight stereo mode with no processing), auditions of electronics are mostly useless. It is good to see the user interface in person, though.

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    Default Re: Denon AVR X4000

    I have the mirage os3 series:floors/center/sats. Not sure on the specs, but they are on miragespeakers.com, my sub is a martin logan 700(wireless). You can see my living on youtube, just type in mirage os3 series and have a look. TV is a panny vt30

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    I'm very happy with my Denon avr and kilpsch speakers I've had it for over 4 years now and never any intention of upgrading its just a great system.

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